Liberty and Virtue

A person who experiences same sex attraction and who endeavors to live chastely in accordance with his religious beliefs keeps an eye out for examples of gay activists' (1) showing intolerance and hatred of traditional religious and moral beliefs and believers, (2) attempting to deny freedom of speech, assembly and religion to others, and (3) trying to cause the government to impose liberal views on sexual morality on society. Other stuff of interest to blogger may also occasionally be posted.

Gay activists do not speak for all those who experience same sex attraction!

Not all those with SSA reject traditional sexual morality!

Not all those with SSA support promiscuity!

Not all those with SSA believe the gay activist ideology of “gay pride”!

Not all those with SSA believe in making their sex drive their primary public identity!

Not all those with SSA support public indecency in “gay pride” parades!

Not all those with SSA support government promotion of homosexual activity!

Not all those with SSA support same sex marriage!

Not all those with SSA support biased teaching in public schools on homosexual matters!

Not all those with SSA demonize traditional religious believers!

Not all those with SSA wish to deny basic freedoms of speech, religion and association to those who disagree with the gay activists’ ideology and agenda!

Christian charity for persons does not require affirmation of sinful or immoral activity!

Sunday, November 21, 2004

When Most of Your School is Gay

Click on the link to see a horrifying article about the government-sponsored segregated public school for children with same sex attraction in New York City. In my opinion, it is inappropriate for public schools to promote the gay ideology, impose this on children, create a gay ghetto and encourage promiscuity. Adults can do what they want, perhaps, as a matter of law, but to encourage children to do this is just wrong. I was talking to some Christian brothers the other day who were bewailing the fact that in a few years, children will have no one to tell them that promiscuity or homosexual activity is wrong, and in fact expressions of belief that they are wrong might be illegal. In fact, it would appear that in places like Canada and Sweden, they are already pretty much at that point. However, this is the feast of Christ the King, so I shall try not to be too pessimistic about the adverse cultural trends. Not only is there hope in Christ and His coming reign, but perhaps there is even hope for the future from human nature itself. Perhaps the culture of promiscuity will at some point become so debilitating for human life that countervailing cultural forces will bring back the virtues of chastity, self-control and valuing of family life. Viva el Cristo Rey!

Charles S.


Blogger arturo fernandez said...

Are you really gay (sorry, SSA-afflicted)? Or a bigot posing as a homosexual to give "credibility" to your bigotry?

November 28, 2004 at 9:56 AM  
Blogger Charles S. said...

Dear Mr. Fernandez,

I think it is bigotry to think that all with same sex attraction must goose-step to the same gay activist ideology. Apparently, we are not allowed to think for ourselves or to hold traditional religious and moral beliefs, even about homosexual activity...

November 28, 2004 at 12:18 PM  
Blogger arturo fernandez said...

Let me tell you what is bigotry. It is to link to an article that tells us that bigots are throwing insults at high school students (God Hates Fags, Go To Hell Harvey Milk Students), saying nothing about THAT, but instead going on about how “horrifying” it is that with this school the government is “encouraging promiscuity” when in fact the article does not say that the school is doing that.

THAT is why bigots are throwing insults at the students--because they, like you, only see sex when they think of “gay.” Because you and they think alike in this way, and because you failed to condemn them, it is fair for me to think that you are just like them.

I find this rather scary “…perhaps the culture of promiscuity will at some point become so debilitating for human life that countervailing cultural forces will bring back the virtues of…” You see “hope” when you imagine disaster? Countervailing cultural forces—what do you have in mind?

By the way, my question was not rhetorical. Are you gay (SSA-afflicted, if you want), or not?

November 29, 2004 at 12:21 AM  
Blogger Charles S. said...

I disagree with the notion that "God hates F**s", since to be Christian is to love the sinner and hate the sin. God does not hate persons, although He hates sinful acts that persons do. The above slogan conflates the person and the act, similarly to the way gay activists conflate the person and the act by falsely saying that voluntarily chosen acts are an inevitable part of their personhood, and therefore one must love both the person and the sinful acts they do. Of course, at least some of the GHF protesters may be using ambiguous shorthand and referring to persons when they really only mean to condemn the acts, but I admit that there are people out there who hate the persons as well as the acts. That is not a Christian position. I have written more on this topic at my other website here. I find the slogans of the "God hates F**s" crowd similar in many ways to the vile hate speech that many gay activists use when discussing traditional Christian believers. And, as we do still have constitutionally-protected freedom of speech then, until there is a clear and present danger, the hate speech of both gay activists and the "God hates F**s" people are and should be protected. As for countervailing cultural currents, I would hope and pray that people would realize in time that the current sex-saturated culture of promiscuity, including indecency in television and the media and the lasciviousness around which the entire "gay lifestyle," including raunchy "gay pride" parades, revolves, is not what is best for living a healthy, holy and morally upright life.

November 29, 2004 at 7:10 AM  
Blogger arturo fernandez said...


It is you, and the GHF crowd, that confuse the person with sex acts. This school (with a graduation rate of 95%), and how you chose to write about it (simply in a context of sex), is evidence of that. It is not “vile hate speech” to point this out. It may hurt, but it’s the truth.

November 29, 2004 at 10:56 AM  

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